狸哥很懒 的讨论

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雷曼不至于,但是情况也不好,黑石今年盈利基本全靠利率对冲,自己做的估值调整不一定充分。现在积压的赎回申请排到未来两三个季度了。手上的流动性不一定够可能需要卖资产。现在卖资产拿不到好价格。70%赎回申请是亚洲高净值人群,中国人居多。

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2022-12-08 17:35

昨天苏世民说:
And so we set it up originally 6 years ago so that we would not permit redemptions beyond 5% a quarter. So we could always make sure we have liquidity to make that 5%. And what happened is we went over that 5% last month. We had been selling the last 2 years as much $3 billion of this BREIT a month. So what happened? We started asking ourselves, what’s going on? And we found how to fasten anything that these redemptions were preponderantly coming from Asia. Same product is in the United States. It’s U.S. real estate. What was going on in Asia? And it didn’t take long to figure out that the Hang Seng Index went down 40% and the Asians tend to use more leverage, more margin debt.
So if you are an investor who has got margin debt and your market goes down 40%, you can imagine what it was like to be one of those into the pools. You’re under excruciating financial pressure, and so they were just looking for liquidity. So BREIT, because it was so successful, its returns have averaged 13% a year for the last 6 years. That’s 3x the return of the REIT index.

2022-12-08 11:14

国内有钱人,尤其是偏好投资地产的资金链出现了问题。

2022-12-08 11:15

可能要补窟窿吧

步雷曼或恒大也太夸张了吧,毕竟对于黑石最坏的情况就是解散该基金,不会衍生流动性危机,只要资产质量还行价格够低,一定会有接盘者

2022-12-10 03:00

[尴尬]

2022-12-09 00:01

“and the Asians tend to use more leverage, more margin debt.” [笑哭]

2022-12-08 22:16

谢谢分享[献花花]
有个小问题 把非上市的BREIT回报率和上市的REIT index进行比较 是否有点关公战秦琼?上市Reits的价格受市场影响波动很大 尤其是当下在大幅加息之后比较价格很吃亏。

黑石的信贷策略bcred也触发5%了。不过还有人买入,所以还是positive net flow

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黑石这几天跌幅也不算大,这块业务是不是占比不高?