快乐的悲观主义者 vs 痛苦的乐观主义者

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芒格号称是一个“快乐的悲观主义者”(cheerful pessimist)。他说在7岁的时候就认识到了这一点,之后只是不断强化,并发现与斯多葛主义(Stoicism)的哲学思想很吻合。

所以一点都不奇怪芒格是一个引用斯多葛主义(Stoicism)哲学家(比如罗马帝国时代的塞内卡、奥列里乌斯)语录最多的投资者。。。

与“战略上藐视,战术上重视”有异曲同工之妙。

--清楚企业、管理层、社会、他人在行为、性格上的一些不理智、愚蠢和宿命;

--但是也知道社会和他人不可能改变或被改变;

--所以满足于在这些外部条件的限制下快乐、幽默地做好自己、保护自己。

更多的人是与他相反,是“痛苦的乐观主义者”:

--不愿意相信甚至听到企业、管理层、社会不好的一面或悲观的宿命;

--但是,因为每天柴米油盐生活都在被这些事情影响,所以又很扎心;

--于是像婴儿一样很纠结于要求社会和他人做出改变。

今年Daily Journal的股东大会上有人问他:“你指出人类很多愚蠢的事情,但是你似乎并不因此而沮丧。你总是这样子的吗?我的观察对吗?”( You point out a great deal of human folly, but you don’t seem to be that upset about it. Has that always been the case and is that a correct perception)

芒格回答:“你的观察很准确。这是我的“系统”,我从犹太人那里抄袭来的。这套“系统”在他们身上很管用,也恰好是我的天生的性格。幽默是我应付(生活)的方法。”( That’s a very correct perception. It’s my system. I’ve copied it from the Jews. I saw it work well from them, and it was my natural inclination anyway. And so, humor is my way of coping.)

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2023-11-29 13:11

“快乐的悲观主义者”(cheerful pessimist)

2019-07-27 09:18

平静接受不能改变的现实(往往指外在世界与他人),勇于改变能够改变的事物(往往指自身),巨婴则正好相反,徒劳无益地试图改变、控制他人而不达,带来“他人即地狱”的纠结痛苦,怯懦退缩地不敢正视、改变自己,无法走出心理安全区,以致外界风吹草动都能带来一惊一乍的恐惧~严重的会有被害妄想症,觉得社会和他人都阴谋勾结与自己作对~芒格这样的是生活的强者,后者则实质上很脆弱,所谓的“乐观”是假象,如果这种认知失调再严重一些,无法正常与世界相处,有的会导致心理疾病……关键可能在于是否有一个自己为自己的人生负责的认知吧?

深切感受到世界的丑陋,人性的阴暗,自我的愚蠢,生活的虚无,现实的难以改变。。。之后,既可以走向迴避(抱怨环境,抱怨他人,仇视别人的成功,幻想在赌博中一举获胜,甚至把一切有可能影响自己赌赢的信息当成阴谋。。。等等,本质上都是无法面对现实的表现)。也可以继续快乐。

只是后者,需要一点小小的勇气~人们很容易把激烈的群体情绪看作勇气,把振臂高呼干掉阴谋家,砸烂旧世界就可以一举获得幸福的人当作英雄。

实际上这不是勇气,只是无数人相同的迴避愿望汇聚在了一起,叠加形成的幻想能解决问题的思想暴力~仅仅是因为人多,所以在感受上仿佛总是“振奋人心”。

2023-11-30 00:57

“--清楚企业、管理层、社会、他人在行为、性格上的一些不理智、愚蠢和宿命;
--但是也知道社会和他人不可能改变或被改变;
--所以满足于在这些外部条件的限制下快乐、幽默地做好自己、保护自己。”

2019-07-27 10:17

中世纪斯多葛派崇尚顺应宇宙自然,以及自律。有一种淡淡的忧伤而又乐于接受。

2019-12-20 21:32

人生到一定的时候会发现,人生是悲观的,但乐观地过好悲观的人生,也许是这个世界唯一的亮色

2019-07-28 08:39

未来属于理性的悲观主义者,芒格是一位伟大的智者

2019-07-27 12:06

"Generally speaking, envy, resentment, revenge and self-pity are disastrous modes of thoughts. Self-pity gets fairly close to paranoia, and paranoia is one of the very hardest things to reverse. You do not want to drift into self-pity. ... Self-pity will not improve the situation."  

"Like Warren, I had a considerable passion to get rich, not because I wanted Ferrari's - I wanted the independence. I desperately wanted it."

 Some people are extraordinarily good at knowing the limits of their knowledge, because they have to be. Think of somebody who's been a professional tightrope walker for 20 years - and has survived. He couldn't survive as a tightrope walker for 20 years unless he knows exactly what he knows and what he doesn't know. He's worked so hard at it, because he knows if he gets it wrong he won't survive. The survivors know. ... Knowing what you don't know is more useful than being brilliant."


"'No man is fit to hold office who isn't perfectly willing to leave it at any time,'... I think that ought to be more the test in corporate directorships. Is a man really fit to make tough calls who isn't willing to leave the office at any time? My answer is no."


"I met the towering intellectuals in books, not in the classroom, which is natural. I can't remember when I first read Ben Franklin. I had Thomas Jefferson over my bed at seven or eight. My family was into all that stuff, getting ahead through discipline, knowledge, and self-control."

芒格说过一句话让我有点顿悟,“我不是受害者,我是幸存者”。很多人包括我在生活中自怨自艾,怨天尤人,应该向芒格学习这种强者心态

快乐的悲观主义者是否还需要具备方丈说的“对社会整体向前发展乐观,对单独个体的决策命运悲观”这一信仰。正因为社会不断变好,所以我们自己只要避免愚蠢就能随同社会整体一起进步(快乐);而如果社会整体是不断倒退或者停滞,个人难以独善其身,难言快乐。